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  3. EVALUATION REPORT QUESTION

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    I can scan the ECE report and send it to you as of today.

    As of my course by course certificate from the Law Faculty I can't.

    I had it scanned but unfortunately my laptop died last week.

    So I bought a new one.

    God bless America :rolleyes:

    I didn't have the backup but I am trying to get it fiixed.

    It's out for repair.

    Besides that my sister (who is in Belgrade), will get me the new certificate next week if necessary, so I can have it in almost no time.

    Oh, I also have the copy of my Diploma with me.

    For start I am ready to send the ECE report and Diploma B)

    Thank you so much.

    PS

    Just tell me please to what address I can send scanned docs?

    Nik,

    Can you scan everything and send it to me? I would like to see exactly what this all says. I still do not think that you will have any trouble, but I would also like to look at your evaluations and your English and Serbian versions of your credentials.

    Elz

  5. EVALUATION REPORT QUESTION

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    I did it like that exactly, but later on,during the admission process they requested professional evaluation B)

    They werent sure what kind of degree I have.

    Maybe they will be even more confused now :rolleyes:

    Evaluator who contacted me was kind of sorry, but according to her, they couldnt find the better match for my degree in the U.S. system.

    She was aware that I have a law degree but either way couldnt evaluated it as the J.D. because thats apparently exclusive for the U.S.

    Anyway I hope it will work for me like this.

    At least I have more than enough credits.

    Best,

    N

    Just one more note. You don't have to use an educational credentials service. I know I didn't, and I'm pretty sure most of other people who came to the US didn't either. Most of the schools can evaluate a degree on their own. You can get a certified translation of your degree and transcripts, and then let the program to which you're applying decide whether your credentials are right or not. That's what I did, and it went OK.

  7. EVALUATION REPORT QUESTION

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

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    Bachelor of Arts is awarded for either a course or a program in the liberal arts or the sciences, or both.

    I didnt study any of them.

    I know it is first university diploma but how I suppose to be admitted for example at the LLM program for foreign lawyers with BA degree?

    Lots of students who got degrees at the Law Faculty in Belgrade were admitted to LLM and LLD programs.

    Equivalent doesnt mean the same but comparable.

    And as the course of study I didnt study it as BA with major in Serbian Legal Studies.

    When somebody earns a BA degree with major in Legal Studies here in the U.S. that means he/she took various college and courses plus some very basic pre-law courses.

    And just a few and basic.

    Such as : Introduction to Criminal Law. Introduction to Juvenile Justice,Gender, Crime and Justice, Race, Crime and Justice. Juvenile Law,, Legal Philosophy.Courts and Sentencing, Law and Psychology, Correctional Intervention, Advanced Seminar in Criminal Justice, Advanced Seminar in Law, Advanced Seminar in Juvenile Justice.

    And before that recommended supporting sequences could be: Economics, History, Law, Policy, and Society, Philosophy or Political Science.

    I dont know really how this correlates to the course of study at the the Faculty of Law in Belgrade.

    OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY EVALUATION CRITERIA IS DURATION OF STUDY AND NOT QUALITY OF IT.

    As of my goals I am not sure if this evaluation will help to achieve it.

    Hope it will.

    At least I have 141 credit hours to bargain :rolleyes:

    I wanted to be admitted to MPA and possibly to LLM program for froeign lawyers, for which I need the first law degree whatever that meant.

    Thanks Elz.

    Really appreciate your fast reply.

  9. EVALUATION REPORT QUESTION

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

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    Thanks for the reply.

    All that you wrote sounds logical but as I know the Law faculty in Belgrade is a law school and not come college.

    If they wrote I have major in Serbian legal studies that means that before major, I must studied something else.

    Like fine arts or geography I guess.

    But I didnt.

    At the Law faculty in Belgrade we didnt really had any majors.

    We had streams, like Judicial law and International law and difference between those two are in exactly seven courses during four year study.

    With a law degree issued by the Law faculty in Serbia you dont have to attend any other school to become a lawyer and start practicing law.

    If they are trying to give the EQUIVALENCE for my Law degree nothing except J.D. or LLB is correct.

    Because equivalence means putting in a relationship my degree with degree here in the U.S.

    It means to evaluate qualities that are comparable.

    It doesnt mean that I can practice law in U.S. with Serbian law degree (which is possible by the way with foreign law credentials in 13 U.S.states).

    It is just acknowledgement act, act of recognition that I studied law in my country in the comparable way students study law in the States.

    That means that I was admitted to the law school by rules and that I graduated from the law school after passing 32 exams.

    Which, except English as a second language, Sociology, Political Economics and Economic Policy all were very connected to law.

    I dare to say pure law.

    Ok, here's a response, although obviously I am no adviser and cannot give you an authoritative opinion.

    Now from what I understand, the bottom line is they didn't see your degree as a law degree issued by a law school, but as a regular college degree with a major in legal studies. As you know, in the US you are supposed to attend law school only after you get your college degree.

    Now, the fact that your degree is identified as a Bachelor of Arts shouldn't confuse you: B.A. doesn't mean you studied art, it's just a standard name for a college degree, like "diplomirani" in Serbia, so you can have a B.A. in economics, English, political science, or anything else. The same goes for the Master of Arts and the Doctor of Philosophy (PhD). PhD doesn't mean that you are really a doctor of philosophy, because you can have a PhD in mathematics, biology, French, or whatever; it's a standard name for a doctorate.

    Hope this helps.

  11. dolazakl u USA

    in Visas to the US

    Posted

    Ja glasam za IACBG sajt.

    Ipak cela stvar treba da ima neku kolicinu akademske ozbiljnosti

    :blink:

    Dobrovoljno javljam da budem Special Representative of the IACBG, Midwest region, Chicago office B)

    Bilo bi interesantno videti koji bi format odgovarao većini studenata. Moramo da odlučimo da li bi se to radilo kroz na? forum, Facebook stranice, specijalno otvorene stranice na sajtu, specijalne stranice na forumu....

    Već sada pravim planove i mislim da ne?to mo?e da se sredi veoma uskoro.

  12. dolazakl u USA

    in Visas to the US

    Posted

    Eto.

    Stvar sredjena

    B)

    Slazem se...do pre neki dan sam verovao da necu imati ko da me saceka na aerodromu u Chicagu, srecom snasao sam se ali sam siguran da neko nece!!! tako da IMAS MOJ GLAS sto se tice pomaganja nasim ljudima jer znam da cu i ja raditi na tome cim budem malo stao na noge, sto se kaze...

    Mozemo da se upoznamo u Chicagu ,ja jos uvek imam problem sa stanom..imama samo priveremeno resenje!Nadam se da cu snaci za toliko...

  13. dolazakl u USA

    in Visas to the US

    Posted

    Ja nisam ni bio na casu B)

    Sorry...

    Kako bilo sigurno je da je za svakog ko dolazi u US prvi put to veliki sok i promena.

    Negde sam na forumu procitao da neko pita da li postoji neka organizacija studenata iz Srbije.

    Ja nisam cuo za nesto tako.

    Ono sto znam je da ne postoji u Cikagu.

    Kako je isti grad sa najvecim brojem nasih ljudi u US onda se mozemo pitati kako je u nekom drugom gradu.

    Takva organizacija bi bila visestruko korisna jer bi pre svega mogla na licu mesta da pomogne nasim studentima oko ogromnog broja prakticnih,svakodnevnih problema.

    Posebno onih koji se javljaju na pocetku boravka ovde.

    Mislim da bi IAC mogao preko nas ovde da odigra veoma pozitivnu ulogu.

    Meni npr. ne bi nista smetalo da nekog ko dolazi u Cikago sacekam na aerodromu,objasnim gde je sta...

    Mislim da bi to olaksalo zivot i dalo neku vrstu sigurnosti studentima.

    Summa summarum javljam se kao dobrovoljac da pomognem koliko mogu svima koji dolaze u Cikago.

    A administrator bi mozda mogao da razmisli o otvaranju nove sekcije.

    IAC mreza u USA :blink:

  14. dolazakl u USA

    in Visas to the US

    Posted

    Nikakav problem.

    Sleces,uzimas prtljag i onda ides na imigraciono.

    Ne mozes da promasis.

    Tamo dajes pasos sa vizom,oni te pitaju zasto dolazis ili nesto u tom stilu,snimaju te,skeniraju otiske,stavljaju pecat u pasos i to je to.

    Nikakvo osiguranje ti ne treba.

    Americka administracija je veoma efikasna za razliku od evropskih drzava B)

    Sta je sve potrebno imati od dokumentacije prilikom ulaska u USA?Viziran pasos,I-20...

    Nije mi jasno da mi niko do sada nije trazio neki vid putnog osiguranja ili uopste bilo kakvog osiguranja jer po Evropi su takva stvari obavezne!

    Kakav je protokol uopste na USA aerodromu prilikom prvog ulaska i sta treba da znam!?Da ne prodjem pored nekog saltera a tu sam trebao da se javim ili tako nesto :blink:

  15. EVALUATION REPORT QUESTION

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    Dear Elz,

    I graduated from the Faculty of Law, University of Belgrade.

    According to the evaluation report I received yesterday, U.S. Equivalence for my degree is Bachelor of Arts with a major in Serbian Legal Studies.

    My total semester hours of undergraduate credit is 126,00.

    I also received 15 credits for some graduate level courses done at the Faculty of Political Science,University of Belgrade which is pretty good.

    How is it possible that U.S. equivalent is a Bachelor of Arts degree if I was studying law, just law and nothing but law?

    I understand that Legal studies system in common law countries is different than in civil law countries (almost all European countries).

    Still I know that during my four year studies I never studied any arts but law.

    My Diploma is evaluated by ECE.

    Thanks

  16. professional statement and admission to GPPA program (MPA)

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

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    Dear Elz,

    I am stuck in evaluation process believe it or not.

    Here it is how it happened.

    My precious admissions officer from the IIT assured me that I dont need professional evaluation.

    That was before I applied.

    I sent of my documents and waited for few weeks.

    Then I received rejection letter in which it is stated that I lack academic credentials to be admitted.

    Of course I called them immediately and wanted to clear that out.

    Apparently they didnt know how to evaluate my law degree especially since I am enrolled at the specialist studies at the Faculty of Political Science in Belgrade, and I have a few credits from there.

    They were kind of confused and advised me to evaluate my diploma with some professional evaluation company.

    And to call them back as soon as I get the results.

    By there words, admissions committee will gladly accept my application but they need to see the professional evaluation.

    What a mess ha?

    Now I am waiting evaluation of my diploma and courses from ECE.

    O tempora o mores!

    Best

  20. professional statement and admission to GPPA program (MPA)

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    Hi again Elz.

    I am still waiting for the book.

    Couldn't find it in the Chicago Public Library.

    I ordered it and hope I will pick it up in next few days.

    I am not sure how exactly I will contact you about the editing of my yet unborn professional statement :ph34r:

    Maybe I can write my email here so you can contact me.

    Best from Chicago

    (which is still under snow and some more is coming soon :wtf: )

  21. professional statement and admission to GPPA program (MPA)

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    Thank you so much Elz.

    I know I am the lucky one.

    Advantage is to be here,to have green card and working experience in the US.

    It helps a lot in communication with admissions offices.

    Now I will seek for advice from the good old educational consigliere Mr. Asher.

    Salute

    :rolleyes:

    Dear Nikola,

    Well, well, you appear to have gotten settled in to life in the USA. For the personal statement, the absolute best book that I know of is the Donald Asher book on Graduate School Admissions Essays. Most of the seminar that we do is based on the principles in that book and it is pretty easy for you to get your hands on a copy.

    I think that you were absolutely right to take your time and look around at the programs. It is much easier to choose when you are in the USA and have to advantage of shopping around. So now get the Asher book and write a great personal statement.

    Good to hear from you,

    Elz

  22. professional statement and admission to GPPA program (MPA)

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    Dear Elz,

    I am writing you after a long time. Finally I think I am ready to apply to graduate studies in the USA :rolleyes:

    Program i have picked is the Graduate Program in Public Administration.

    I successfully solved TOEFL and GRE issues with the Office of Graduate Admission.

    My recommendation letters are also on their way.

    Recently I applied for FAFSA (i am not eligible to receive the Federal Pell Grant because my expected family contribution is 11363) and hope that I will be eligible for some other federal student aid.

    NOW I JUST HAVE TO WRITE A GOOD PROFESSIONAL STATEMENT in order to complete my application.

    Since I didnt attend any of your preparation courses (last 18 months I live in the USA) I am not sure how.

    Can you please help me?

    Thank you.

    Best,

    Nikola

  23. university degree certificate

    in American Citizens and Eligible Residents - General Issues

    Posted

    thanks elz but i cant find your answer.

    i already found some info about evaluation of my serbian degree..

    i can see there is a few organizations providing that service.

    but i am not sure which one is the best.

    as i said i couldnt find your post so obviously i could use some technology lessons too...

    my email is nikolarms@yahoo.com ...maybe we can communicate faster that way.

    thanks elz

    Hey Nik, I answered this for you under another part of the forum today. Sorry it took me so long, I have not gotten the kinks out of the new forum drill. I am afraid that Mr. Stojkovic had to draw me a picture of how to use the technology to view the most recent posts. I seem to have caught on at last, however.

    Elz

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